Saturday, November 07, 2009

Keeping Track of Saturday's Health Care Debate

The House is now in a rare Saturday session. Michelle Malkin is live-blogging today's debate in the House of the health care bill.

Pelosi needs 218 votes to ram this crap bill through. The word is that as of yesterday, she didn't have the votes to pass the bill through the House. She has reversed her position about allowing an up or down floor vote on an amendment blocking any money in its healthcare overhaul from funding abortions. She must be desperate for votes to do this, because she risks angering House liberals who have said they would vote against the bill if it includes the language of this amendment. I think what this shows is that Nanzi Pelosi will do ANYTHING to shove this crap sandwich down the country's throat. I think what we're seeing from this woman is some serious psychological pathology. She is absolutely obsessed with passing this bill.

As I wrote in a previous post, Pelosi has been reduced to strongarming freshmen House members to get the votes she needs. USA Today is reporting that her efforts haven't gone too well. Out of a dozen first-term Democrats, 7 have announced that they are "No" votes. Wow. I'm just guessing here, but that has to be unprecedented.

This is from Reuters: President Barack Obama and top administration officials called undecided Democrats to plead for support, and House leaders held talks with wavering members to nail down their backing.

Democrats were short of the 218 votes they need to pass the measure, but House Democratic leader Steny Hoyer said "we're very close." House members were warned the final vote could slip to Sunday or even later in the week.

While we're waiting for more updates from Michelle on the debate, there's an excellent article online at the Wall Street Journal: "What the Pelosi Health Care Bill Really Says," by Betsy McCaughey. She gives details of the 1,990-page bill: What you need to know.

Here's just one particularly nasty example of what's in the bill from the article: Sec. 224 (p. 118) provides that 18 months after the bill becomes law, the Secretary of Health and Human Services will decide what a "qualified plan" covers and how much you'll be legally required to pay for it. That's like a banker telling you to sign the loan agreement now, then filling in the interest rate and repayment terms 18 months later.

Here's another good one: Sec. 59b (pp. 297-299) says that when you file your taxes, you must include proof that you are in a qualified plan. If not, you will be fined thousands of dollars. Illegal immigrants are exempt from this requirement.

Here's one commenter's optimistic post about Nanzi Pelosi's craptastic bill: I love this bill. I love this whole health care takeover attempt. The longer it goes on the better. We on the right could not have used any imaginable way to expose the left in the fashion that they have exposed themselves. It's a great time for our democracy and our future.

Update from Michelle Malkin: 10:41am Eastern. GOP Rep Tom Price says the final vote looks it will take place at 6pm Eastern. House is taking care of other business right now. Then there will be a vote on motion to proceed on govt health care debate. There will reportedly be 1 hour of debate; unspecified time set aside to debate GOP alternative; vote on Stupak amendment; then final vote.

The Stupak amendment is the amendment about abortion funding that, had she had the votes, Nanzi Pelosi would never have let see the light of day on the House floor.

From MM: Update 11:06am Eastern. A parade of female Democrats are using the House resolution process to play the gender card on Pelosicare and eat into general debate time through unanimous consent requests. GOP Reps are objecting. Chair John Dingell shutting up GOP reps. Repubs want an extension of an hour on debate to balance the female Dem circus.

A female Republican rep is objecting. Dingell is ignoring her.

GOP Rep. Culberson asks for extension of an hour on debate.

Update again: For an instructive look under the skirts at the legislative process, read Michelle Malkin's live blog, particularly at 11:30 a.m. Eastern. Female Dems line up in a parade, given time to spew their nonsense without a time penalty; Republican females line up to do likewise, immediately ruled out of order. Democracy at work? Good grief.

MM Update, 12:44 p.m. Eastern. Obama visited the Hill to rally weakened Dems. He told them to stand on the “right side of history.” Reports are that final vote has been delayed until at least 10:30pm Eastern. There will be four hours of floor debate before the final vote.

Obama kissing Pelosi. OMG, I'm pretty sure I'm going to vomit.

Update (purely personal): I just was informed that the Episcopal Church of the United States (ECUSA) is all-in for Pelosi's craptastic bill: The Episcopal Public Policy Network (EPPN) has issued an appeal for church members to urge Congress to pass the Affordable Health Care for America Act of 2009.

From Midwest Conservative Journal (the guy who writes this blog and I are both former members of the same Episcopal parish): Let’s see. Keep your mouth shut or it’ll cost you big-time. Accept the new order or get sued out of your meeting house. Toe the line or we’ll “interpret” the canons, declare that you’ve “broken communion” and depose your ass. I can see why the Episcopal Organization is so enthusiastic about NannerMcBotoxCare.

Perfect. If ECUSA is for it, then it must be evil, straight up.

A sickening spectacle. 1:42 PM ET -- From HuffPo: Are Democrats confident? Well, they're passing around copies of the nearly 2,000 page bill and autographing it for each other on the floor. Some members have only gotten Pelosi's autograph, others have the entire first page of the bill covered in the signatures of their colleagues.

Update, 4:45 p.m. Eastern. Was the Stupak amendment just a phony bit of theater? That's Rep. Bart Stupak (D., Michigan). This is from the Huffington Post (content warning!) Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) told reporters that regardless of the outcome of the vote on his amendment, which would severely restrict coverage of reproductive health issues, the House health care bill is headed for passage. He is whipping support for the amendment and estimates he has 225 votes. If he's right, the amendment will pass, and he predicted enough pro-life Democrats will vote yes on the final bill to put it over the top. But if it fails, he said, enough pro-lifers -- ten to 15, he said -- will have been satisfied to have had their vote on the floor that they'll turn around and support the final bill anyway. Picking up ten to 15 votes would give the bill a comfortable margin for passage.

Again, If Stupak is correct -- and there's no reason to think he's wrong -- then it's a done deal, and the bill will pass the House.

"The forty members who stood strong with me through this whole deal, I think at least 15 will not vote for the bill no matter what, even if Stupak is adopted," he said. "Then there might still have been ten to 15 who would vote for it even if we didn't get our amendment."

Here's Nanzi Pelosi's craptastick bill, sitting in her office. May she choke to death in some horrible, painful, public way.

For an example of the debate going on over on the House floor. Here's Rep. Paul Ryan (R., Wisconsin) giving his one-minute speech agains Nanzi's craptastik bill. Hat tip to Gateway Pundit.

Pass: 220 - 215. We will not forget this vote. Votes, like elections, have consequences. "Dump the Pelosi 220."

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